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 Dr. MInor
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                             with Dr. Minor about his work and writing.          Listen to  Dr. Minor interviewed on the Intersection of Homophobia and Religion on "The Humanist Hour"
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  Dr. 
                        Minor interview in Echo Magazine (Phoenix, AZ) More 
                          than Minor considerations KU professor tackles limits of gender roles in Scared 
                          Straight
 By Liz Massey
 For Dr. 
                          Bob Minor, being "scared straight" is something 
                          far more harrowing than the 1970s video series of the 
                          same name, which was designed to keep teens out of jail 
                          by having convicts describe the horrors of incarcerated 
                          life. Living a "straight" life requires an 
                          incarceration of our humanity, he might say.Minor, a religious studies professor 
                          at the University of Kansas and openly gay columnist 
                          for the Liberty Press Kansas City, set out to 
                          write Scared Straight: Why It's So Hard to Accept 
                          Gay People and Why It's So Hard to Be Human, after 
                          a decade of leading "Understanding Homophobia" 
                          workshops for church, civic and activist groups throughout 
                          the Midwest. The issues of homophobia (which Minor defines 
                          as "fear of closeness to our same sex") and 
                          anti-gay oppression are rooted, he asserts, in the "straight" 
                          role, which is installed like software and is the dominant 
                          "operating system" for American culture.
 "Straight" doesn't 
                          refer to heterosexuality, Minor says (although it is 
                          the only acceptable sexual orientation); rather, it 
                          is the set of expectations and rules that place men 
                          on top in this culture, as oppressors of that which 
                          is not associated with being a "real man." 
                          Everyone else, including women, children, gays and others 
                          defined as "non-men," are beneath them, defined 
                          as victims.
 I talked to Minor, who was the 
                          professor for a religion class I took many years ago 
                          at KU, by phone and e-mail about the themes covered 
                          in the book.
 Echo: "Opposite sexes" is a term almost 
                          everyone uses to describe males and females. What, in 
                          your view, is wrong with this phrase?
 Minor: "Opposite" implies that there 
                          are only two distinct genders, not recognizing all of 
                          the possibilities that are transsexual and intersexual. 
                          It also keeps men and women separate with the belief 
                          that they cannot understand each other. In addition, 
                          "opposite" is more than just saying these 
                          two binaries are different. It implies being "opposed" 
                          to each other.
 Echo: What does it mean when men relate to each 
                          other as oppressor-to-oppressor, as you say all men 
                          are conditioned to do?
 Minor: It means that a man will have deep fears 
                          about making himself vulnerable to another man. That 
                          does effect gay male relationships around intimacy and 
                          trust.
 Echo: Do women ever relate to each other in that 
                          role?
 Minor: Women "should" relate victim-to-victim 
                          under this model. That means they will either compete 
                          to be the best victim of the sexism, or will have difficulty 
                          accepting valuing from their female partners and the 
                          value of self-worth. They will be missing that male 
                          approval at a deep level.
 Echo: You mention in the chapter on how the straight 
                          role is installed that you believe studies of 4-year-olds 
                          that purport to show that gender roles are "natural" 
                          actually demonstrate how effective the conditioning 
                          is. What do you think a non-straight-conditioned childhood 
                          might look like?
 Minor: It would be more "child-like." 
                          In our culture, with its adultism, that sounds like 
                          a bad thing, but remember that acting "grown-up" 
                          means following the conditioning.
 [Children] would be free from 
                          the limiting roles and thus free to pursue whatever 
                          talents they have. Boys could express their nurturing 
                          abilities and girls could express their power and strength.
 Echo: What can we do to avoid installing these 
                          gender roles in our GLBT-parented children?
 Minor: First, GLBT parents need to recognize 
                          that they are whole and compete human beings. The only 
                          reason our society needs to claim that children need 
                          a father and a mother is so they can have models of 
                          the dysfunctional, conditioned gender roles. But any 
                          person who is showing their total humanity can model 
                          what it is to be a full human being to a child. That's 
                          all a child needs.
 We need to be parents who are 
                          also activists. Besides rejecting gender stereotypes 
                          we impose on our children and other straight-acting 
                          approaches to child-rearing, we would need to model 
                          how to change society. Children ... need to see how 
                          to be agents of active change.
 Echo: When you discuss "how to be gay" 
                          in your book, you use Urvashi Vaid's term "virtual 
                          equality" for the way gays are treated  and 
                          perhaps are striving to be treated  by "straight" 
                          society today. Why is that?
 Minor: The victim role causes us to settle for 
                          a virtual equality, not a real equality. It causes us 
                          to make new closets such as (repeating the statements) 
                          "I'm just like you except ..." or "I 
                          just happen to be gay." It causes us to hide our 
                          sexuality and the fact that we are sexual beings. We 
                          settle for crumbs and not full valuing.
 Echo: You spend a lot of time describing how 
                          many in our community are living the "gay victim" 
                          role, as opposed to actually being the target of anti-gay 
                          hatred. How different do you think our political organizing 
                          would look without this lens of victimhood?
 Minor: We would be more effective, less angry, 
                          less burned out, have less fighting among ourselves, 
                          have less drama in our community. We'd assume the best 
                          of each other and act on that basis rather than expecting 
                          the worst.
 We'd look more powerful and 
                          self-sufficient to the straight community  which 
                          would make them face more of their homophobia. We'd 
                          have fewer addictions. And we'd be more playful as well.
 Echo: How can gays support all people as they 
                          step out of "straight" life?
 Minor: We have to be public about rejecting the 
                          gender roles. We have to end sexism because it is the 
                          key idea. And we have to be gentle on ourselves as we 
                          do it.
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  Dr. 
                        Minor interview in Midwest Times (Kansas City, 
                        MO) 
 Dr. 
                        Robert Minor: Gay & Healthy In a
 Sick Society
 Local Author releases groundbreaking new 
                        book
 by Gaby Vice, Staff Writer.
 
 I
                        have had the distinct privilege of having Dr. Robert
                        Minor as not only a friend,
                        but a mentor and colleague, for over two years. Bob is
                        one of those rare human beings who is so comfortable
                        with who he is, and as a result so human and inspiring,
                        that it is hard for his many great qualities not to rub
                        off on those around him. After reading Gay & Healthy,
                         I sat down with the good doctor and asked him a few
                        questions.
 Gaby Vice:  Why did you decide to 
                        write Gay & Healthy in a Sick Society?
 Robert Minor:   I have gotten a 
                        lot of requests for reprints of my columns that appear 
                        monthly on the critically acclaimed GayToday.com 
                        and in Kansas' Liberty Press. In addition, this 
                        collection allows a larger audience to react to them. 
                        I've been writing the column since 1998 and never missed 
                        a month. The reactions have been overwhelmingly positive. 
                        I also have an email list of people who receive it around 
                        the country every month and then forward it to others. 
                        I'm excited about LGBT people thinking more seriously 
                        about their own value and importance (because they are 
                        LGBT) to our society.
 GV: How is it different from Scared 
                        Straight?
 RM: First, the chapters are much shorter, 
                        but also it's written to LGBT people to raise the issues 
                        that affect us, not to sit around and complain about what 
                        the radical right is doing, but to reflect on our reactions. 
                        Scared Straight was more of a book that you read 
                        from beginning to end, one chapter follows from another 
                        until the final chapter suggests a solution. It's been 
                        very well received and was a finalist for two awards: 
                        a Lambda Literary Award and the Independent Book Publisher 
                        Award. You can pick up Gay & Healthy, read 
                        a 1100 word chapter and put it down. You can read by topic 
                        if you want. I think that's part of why it's been catching 
                        on so quickly and hasn't even been out a month.
 GV: Can you briefly tell me what Gay 
                        & Healthy in a Sick Society is about?
 RM: The main theme is that LGBT people 
                        are poised to change the world, to get society out of 
                        the very sick condition it's in. There's nothing wrong 
                        with anyone that has to do with their sexual orientation. 
                        The problems we have and that we act out on other LGBT 
                        people are a result of society's conditioning, the same 
                        conditioning that keeps heterosexual people in the critically 
                        ill, straight-acting closet that ultimate destroys them. 
                        Our problems tell us about society's sickness and its 
                        very sick institutions. LGBT people are fine. Society 
                        is critically ill and in denial about it.
 GV:  Who is your target readership?
 RM: Lesbians, gay men, and bisexual and 
                        transgender people. I hope women will read it even if 
                        it's by a man. After all Scared Straight is used 
                        as a textbook around the country in Women's Studies courses. 
                        I'm going to James Madison University in Virginia in late 
                        January to meet with students and faculty who use it.
 GV: What do you most want people to come 
                        away with after they read it?
 RM: I want LGBT people to really value 
                        themselves and their insights. I want them to be more 
                        creative and stop valuing and aping straight society. 
                        I hope they will see that they live in a very sick society 
                        and are healthy in comparison. That's just the opposite 
                        of what society wants us to think about ourselves. Society 
                        wants us to believe that we are the problem and that we 
                        have the problems they don't have.
 GV: How have you changed since Scared 
                        Straight, and is this reflected in the new one?
 RM: I've become even more convinced that 
                        LGBT people can be a healthy alternative to our society's 
                        sickness about sex, relationships, friendships, and much 
                        of the human condition, if they don't decide to blend 
                        in and hide behind the same straight roles that heterosexual 
                        people are more and more finding stiflling of their humanity.
 GV:  How has the LGBT community 
                        & its issues changed between books?
 RM: I think we've become more complacent 
                        because of some of the strides we've made. I think we 
                        are more divided (which mirrors the increasing divisions 
                        of the larger society by class, race, gender, and age). 
                        I think we've become more sophisticated in our addictions 
                        but no less addicted. And I think we've become more homophobic 
                        and sex-phobic. We're still having as much sex as ever 
                        but finding it less satisfying because our society is 
                        so sick about sex and it's rubbed off on us.
 GV:  You're doing a fair amount 
                        of promotion for Gay & Healthy. Do you enjoy 
                        that and where can people meet you while you promote the 
                        book?
 RM: It's a chance to meet people, some 
                        of whom have read Scared Straight. And when they 
                        come up to you and say how important it was to them, that's 
                        what gives me great satisfaction. Promotion of Gay 
                        & Healthy started in the beginning of November, 
                        when the book first appeared, at Palm Springs Pride, then 
                        Miami, and next Atlanta. Most of the promotion will be 
                        next year. Of course, my recent night at the LGCC-KC this 
                        month was special with the proceeds going to the Center.
 GV:  Where can people buy Gay 
                        & Healthy in a Sick Society?
 RM: It's on line through the usual sources, 
                        through my website (www.fairnessproject.org ) and soon 
                        in the usual stores such as In the Life and Barnes and 
                        Noble on the Plaza. When the Center store opens, it will 
                        be there too, I hope.
 GV:  On a completely different matter.. 
                        The Center is going through some very exciting growth.. 
                        as president of LGCC-KC, can you give us your take on 
                        these exciting developments and what the KC LGBT Community 
                        can expect from the Center in 2004?
 RM: I'm excited about the changes and 
                        all of the people that are responsible. When Jamie Rich 
                        and I shook hands in the summer of 2001 and said "I'll 
                        do it if you will" and when we opened up the facilities 
                        on November 1, 2001, we had hope that the Center would 
                        be seen has having a unique value to the community and 
                        its many LGBT organizations, but did not envision the 
                        fast growth and outpouring of support. People have come 
                        forward to contribute their ideas and talents, and their 
                        financial resources. The Center began as a clearinghouse 
                        for information but has really become a center for the 
                        community. As President I can sit back and watch the many 
                        involved people contribute. With the addition of a Coordinator 
                        of Youth Services and a Coordinator of Community Services, 
                        there's so much more we can do.
 GV:  Anything else you would like 
                        to add?
 RM: Just "thank you" to so 
                        many in Kansas City and around Kansas and Missouri for 
                        all the great local support I've gotten. There are too 
                        many to name. That's been so important to me. I remember 
                        my back home  family wherever I am around the country. 
                        I couldn't be located in a better place. And, one of the 
                        happiest things has been that my publisher allows my partner, 
                        Gary, to design the covers and layout for the books. That's 
                        an unusual situation in the publishing world. So, Gary's 
                        talents are a part of all that I do-- and that couldn't 
                        be nicer.
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